Hi Jeff, I think I have a hard time contributing when the prompt is so broad. Part of the challenge is that bus stops vary a lot in their construction and design, but I'm pretty sure there are standards issued by the US Access Board (led by Sachin Pavithran) or some other Department of Transportation entity. There are bus stops that don't follow the customs that I am assuming are guided by written standards. For example, in some cities in Minnesota, there are bus stops that have no marking whatsoever, but bus users are just supposed to know that they should wait on that corner for a bus. Installing a sign pole in that situation would be a great help. In the neighborhood where I currently live, there are disjointed spots where we have sidewalk, and some of them line up with bus stops. On my street, some of the bus stops have sidewalk and others do not. Taking a walk down the street is kind of odd because we kind of have to zig zag and cross the street to have sidewalk as we keep going. Having sidewalk where the bus stop is would be a good idea. If the sidewalk is not continuous, placing a ramp onto that sidewalk would allow wheelchair users to get onto the sidewalk to then get ready to board the bus. If they do that for wheelchair users, that gives something that we could find with our canes. This would benefit everyone. Also, in the Twin Cities, many of our bus stop signs have little metal plates on them that include a braille label for that bus stop. Installing these little labels would (1) give blind users the knowledge that such a sign is definitely a bus stop sign, thus helping to confirm that we found a bus stop, and (2) tell us key information that is on the sign. If there is any more specificity to the kinds of bus stops that the student wants to focus on, I'm happy to talk more. Aloha, Justin Justin MH Salisbury, MEd, NOMC, NCRTB English Pronouns: He/Him/His Email: President@Alumni.ECU.edu ResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Justin_Salisbury LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-salisbury ORCID: https://orcid.org/0009-0009-1786-2786 Recent Public Scholarship: Salisbury, J. (2025). Defining and understanding the blind community. Including Disability, 6. "Until the lion learns how to write, every story will glorify the hunter." Chinua Achebe -----Original Message----- From: debandjeff--- via NOMC <members@lists.nbpcb.org> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2026 4:18 PM To: members@lists.nbpcb.org Subject: [NOMC] Looking for Ideas Regarding making locating Bus Stops more Accessible Hello Everyone, Mark Coleman, a student in the Master's Certificate program at LATech, is looking for ideas regarding effective methods of modifying bus stops, at low cost, to make locating them easier for blind pedestrians, especially in unfamiliar places. I will share your responses with him, until he is able to become a member of the list serve. Thank you, Jeff _______________________________________________ NOMC mailing list -- members@lists.nbpcb.org To unsubscribe send an email to members-leave@lists.nbpcb.org